1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 Okay. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Okay, just a second, please. 3 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Okay, I'm on air traffic controller at Oakland International Airport. 4 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Yes, sir. 5 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 And this was called in to me and they tried to get a hold of me, apparently they couldn't, 6 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 and they called me back and gave me the information. 7 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 So I'll pass what I can. 8 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Okay, fine. 9 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Second hand. 10 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Okay, you're living in the vicinity of Nevada, California. 11 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Okay, I'm on the right side of the road. 12 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Okay, I'm on the right side of the road. 13 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Okay, I'm on the right side of the road. 14 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Okay, I'm on the right side of the road. 15 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Okay, I'm on the right side of the road. 16 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Okay, I'm on the right side of the road. 17 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,000 California. 18 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Uh-huh. 19 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,000 And it was, it's a buzzer, San Rafael. 20 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 It was called to me by a CPO. 21 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Okay. 22 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,000 And the way it happened, apparently he's in charge of what they call a base react, 23 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 it's a unit which people drive around in the car with the radio and if they see an accident 24 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 or something on the base, they get on the radio. 25 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 It's an emergency service type radio, they call the appropriate authorities. 26 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Oh, yes. 27 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:03,000 And he had somebody saw it first and then called it to him and then he saw it. 28 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:09,000 And the person that called him said it appeared to come from the Oakland area. 29 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,000 And he observed it for about two minutes. 30 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,000 He didn't know the distance it had traveled or the speed it traveled on. 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:25,000 And by looking at it with a naked eye, it looked like one bright light. 32 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:31,000 It's shoes and the knockers, it looks like a cluster of four small lights. 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Okay. 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000 And it appears to be waving up and down. 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 They've been watching for about the last 20 minutes. 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Okay, was this in stationery? 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Uh, it appeared, apparently it first had moved and then it appears to be for the last 20 minutes to be fairly stationary. 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Okay. 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 All right, can we get your name? 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Okay, my name is... 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 That's Oakland Center. 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Oakland International Airport. 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Okay. 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 That's additional information here if you want to. 45 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Sure. 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Okay, I asked on the line, and he said it was above the horizon, but it was not far enough above the horizon that it could be mixed in with the stars. 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Uh-huh. 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,000 He said he spent quite a bit of time in his backyard, so he knew any new west satellite looked right. 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Okay. 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 And he said it just appeared to be off above the horizon. 51 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,000 He didn't have anything to compare it with as far as distance or height. 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 All right. 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Oh, I sure appreciate this. 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Okay. 55 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 And we'll check it out. 56 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Okay. 57 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Thanks very much. 58 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Yeah, I've got a name of somebody else if they want, if you want somebody else, but also so. 59 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Okay. 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Okay. 61 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 And they did call the, uh, I think it was the Nevada Police Department. 62 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,000 They called them. 63 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,000 All right, sir. 64 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 And they're gonna try to get a picture of it if they can. 65 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 If someone has a good enough camp. 66 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Okay, thank you very much. 67 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Okay. 68 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Right. 69 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 This is the UFO reporting center in Washington. 70 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Yeah. 71 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 We understand you saw something in the sky tonight. 72 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,000 We sure have. 73 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 I'd like to hear about it. 74 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Yeah, okay. 75 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,000 We got a call from one of our mobile units, one of our mobile react units. 76 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 And he reported it to us. 77 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,000 He gave us a direction from where he saw, which is pretty close to where we're at right now. 78 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,000 So we looked out through our back door window, which is just about due west. 79 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 It's bright light. 80 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,000 It looks like, you know, it would be one of the bright stars like the North Star, except 81 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 that it's in the wrong area. 82 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Okay. 83 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 So we told him we saw it too. 84 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:37,000 I called the Nevada Police Department here and informed that, informed my mobile unit 85 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 that I had called the Nevada Police Department. 86 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:48,000 He told me he had a person with him at that time who had seen it move from Oakland up to 87 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 the area where we were watching that. 88 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,000 He said it took about two minutes to move up there and then it just stopped right there 89 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 in midair. 90 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Yes. 91 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,000 And we've been watching it now for all pretty close to a half hour or 45 minutes. 92 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 And it looked like it was hanging right in the midair. 93 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,000 You know, we watched it move up just a little bit, move down just a little bit. 94 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,000 And now looking out my back door window, which I'm doing right now while I'm talking to you, 95 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 it has dropped quite a bit in the sky. 96 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,000 But, you know, nothing like a normal star would do with the rotation of the Earth. 97 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Yes. 98 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Okay, but what time did you spot that? 99 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Okay. 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:36,000 It was reported to us, oh, I'd say about 10 minutes to 7 hour time. 101 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Okay. 102 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:47,000 It's a brilliant white light and it got brighter a couple of times, you know, like it was coming 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 closer to you. 104 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Yes. 105 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 And then it started fading back out. 106 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Okay, how's the sky conditions there tonight? 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 The sky conditions seem to be fairly clear. 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:03,000 I saw one airplane tonight that is falling between me and the subject. 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,000 I saw the same airplane flying, I know, as I would be looking towards this object to the left 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 and below it. 111 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,000 And I was just down my front yard where I could get a better view of it, trying to get a picture 112 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:21,000 of it, you know, we got too much house lights and everything around here to get a decent picture. 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,000 And one of my friends called my attention to another object that was in the sky, which 114 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 I, they're looking at a little bit more. 115 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 It looked to me more like a helicopter, which was, you know, a complete 180 degrees from 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 that. 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Yes. 118 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 I heard no noise from it, but I saw an equilation of lights and everything on that. 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Okay, is this another object? 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Is it pure white? 121 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Pure white. 122 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Okay. 123 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 In due west? 124 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 It is just about due west for me. 125 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Okay. 126 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And you can't see anything else on it in the way of colored lights? 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 I can't see anything at all. 128 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:59,000 This mobile universe that reported it has a fairly strong pair of binoculars, and he 129 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,000 looked at it and he said it looked like a cluster of four lights in the square that were very 130 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 close together. 131 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Oh, okay. 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Binoculars. 133 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 And he actually saw it coming up from Sacramento area. 134 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 He saw it coming up from the Oakland area. 135 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 We're due north of Oakland. 136 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 It's about due north of Oakland. 137 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,000 He saw it coming up from that area for approximately two minutes, he said. 138 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,000 And which city is this? 139 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 This is Novato, California, which is... 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Novato. 141 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Okay, I'm actually living in Hamel, therefore, Space House. 142 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Okay. 143 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Can we get your first name? 144 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Dennis. 145 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Dennis, what's your name? 146 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Did you try to get through to us before? 147 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Yes, I did, and I kept getting the signal that your duty equipment problem, you know, 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 I'd have to hang up, try calling again. 149 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Well, for him to say... 150 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,000 I tried that for about five minutes, and I decided, well, you know, I might be wasting 151 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 my time for a while if this was going to be a problem. 152 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:01,000 So I had to open FAA again to it, then the people that had given me a phone number. 153 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Great, okay. 154 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Okay, we'll check into this, see if we can come up with some kind of an answer, and if 155 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 we come up with an identification while we let you know about it. 156 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Okay, if you have any further questions or anything, don't hesitate to go. 157 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,000 I've been in the Navy for 16 years, you know, and I've seen one other time something like 158 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 this. 159 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Okay. 160 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Where did you say you got our number? 161 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 I got it from the Oakland Airport, oh, okay. 162 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Okay, we'll get on it right away. 163 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Fine, thank you very much. 164 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 You're welcome. 165 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Bye.